tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30704611.post8490823342828589490..comments2023-05-28T10:59:57.169+01:00Comments on Jon's labour movement blog: More thoughts on five activists and three wise monkeysJon Rogershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10779486527359048519noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30704611.post-54108341795561264942011-03-11T23:19:24.365+00:002011-03-11T23:19:24.365+00:00This was a shameful episode and I'm delighted ...This was a shameful episode and I'm delighted that the courts have made some sense of this vile matter.<br><br>It is an insult to those suffering from genuine racist assaults to have see charges trumped up in this is fashion. The cartoon is, to anyone with half a brain who has actually seen it, is clearly a satirical comment and not a racist one. No apology was ever neccessary. <br><br>How are we expected to win the fight against racism when people with power who claim to know better use bogus accusations of racism as a blunt instrument to get their own way?<br><br>The members who led this withchunt should stand down immediately and be made to write out 10,000 times "I will never again insult the legacy of Dr Martin Luther King".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30704611.post-89295902525410587742008-04-18T18:14:00.000+01:002008-04-18T18:14:00.000+01:00I understand the people you refer to are now down ...I understand the people you refer to are now down to "four activists" - what happens next? Disciplinary.<br>I have been in a situation where someone I deal with on a unison committee made great efforts to bar me from being considered for a position (that I was legitimately enitiled to be considered for) - and his actions took place in an open forum, and were highly personal and highly offensive. The outcome of this was a letter to me from both national office and the member himself, by way of apology. In this case, though, once it becomes the SOC that find something offensive, no apology can ever be enough?<br>Its a bizarre situation - and will cost a fortune from our subs to run the disciplinaries. Money that could be spent on a new head office. Oops, sorry - on funding equal pay cases....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30704611.post-76300968629737441792008-02-01T00:10:00.000+00:002008-02-01T00:10:00.000+00:00The offensive cartoon Glenn is still on your web s...The offensive cartoon Glenn is still on your web siteAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30704611.post-20423444270273456682008-01-28T21:20:00.000+00:002008-01-28T21:20:00.000+00:00Anon Your original accuasion was that we did not o...Anon <br><br>Your original accuasion was that we did not offer an apology at confernce and "thats what upset the black members", when i go onto to disprove your point you now say, "why did we reproduce it, thats what upset the black members". <br><br>Put aside that only one member complained and many black members supported us and therefore it is not correct to talk in such terms, i will deal with your new complaint which is "why did we reproduce it?" <br><br>My First responce is that at confernce we did NOT reporduce the cartoon. A leaflet challenging what was happening to us was produced which did not include the cartoon as everyone was already at the confernce. <br><br>Are you are talking about the campaign leaflet produced months after confernce ?<br><br>Given that the union were intent on escalating this matter into a formal disciplinary matter on us we were faced with a difficult situation. Only those union members who were at confernce would have seen the leaflet, <br><br>In order to take the issue to the wider membership those supporting us needed to explain what had happended to us.<br><br>If they had written to members and asked them to oppose the attack on us for producing a leaflet. It was beleived that many would have justly said that before deciding if they would back us or not they would want to see the leaflet to judge for themselves, that is why it had to be reproduced.<br> <br><br>Glennbronsteinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30704611.post-10162962472728607752008-01-26T21:29:00.000+00:002008-01-26T21:29:00.000+00:00so Glen if it was an apologywhy did you reproduce ...so Glen if it was an apology<br>why did you reproduce it ???<br><br>thats what up set black membersAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30704611.post-11842575169191926762008-01-26T00:32:00.000+00:002008-01-26T00:32:00.000+00:00but no apology at coonference ???? that was the m...but no apology at coonference ???? that was the mistake ???? the leaflet the day after defended the cartoon....only when threatened with disaplinary action was an apology forthcomming<br><br>Thats where black members Group have a problemAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30704611.post-13285140714934052502008-01-25T12:20:00.000+00:002008-01-25T12:20:00.000+00:00I missed the AGM but have followed the email debat...I missed the AGM but have followed the email debate in Lambeth Branch. The use of the cartoon in relation to the SOC was insensitive and should not have been used but it does seem to have been an error of judgement. It was right that it was challenged.<br><br>But what I find incredible is that the UNISON bureaucracy seems to go into overdrive to have a pop at activists who make genuine mistakes yet somehow ignores its own officers when they may do similar things? I recently made a complaint to our Regional Secretary about a blatantly islamophobic email circulated to activists in our region by an experienced UNISON official via UNISON's email. I also emailed the officer twice asking why this had been circulated. To date I have had no response from the Regional Secretary and nothing like an expression of regret. Wonder if I ever will? <br>KatAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com